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Thread: REVIEW: Moment Comi-Kazi
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12-10-2007, 12:21 AM #1
REVIEW: Moment Comi-Kazi
SKIER INFO
Skier: 5'10", 215#, aggressive
Skis I have ridden/review:
192 Moment M1
186 Moment Comi
188 Moment Tahoe
194 Dynastar Legend Pro
193 Nordica Blower
200 DPS Lotus 120 (flex 3)
SKI INFO
Ski tested: 192 Moment Comi-Kazi mounted on the line with 916s
Dimensions: 160-136-145 (35m r)
Specs: rockered tip which is about 1/4 the total length of the skis; slightly raised swallowtail
UPDATE (5/18/2008): after 10-12 days on these skis, the rockered tip now begins 54cm from the tip of the ski
TESTING INFO
Locations: Keystone (trees), Vail (back bowls)
Conditions: deep powder, deep powder in trees, bumped-out powder (get the idea?)
Mount line will appear a bit further back than some people might be used to, but it feels absolutely money and wouldn't mount it elsewhere.
On groomers and bumps, they are adequate. You will notice chatter on the flats. In crud and post-pow conditions, the Comi-Kazi does not fair well at all. This ski is strictly for powder and soft snow.
In trees, these skis are a ton of fun and are quite manageable for its size. My first time through the woods was a bit difficult since I didn't have a strong grasp of how the Comi-Kazi skis, but after a few more runs through, I was able to ski pretty quickly in moderately tight spots with ease. Again, for comparative purposes, the Comi-Kazi skis as well (if not better) in trees than the 193 Blower.
Bases are absolutely bomber. I hit several dozen logs and rocks at Keystone on Saturday through the woods in the Outback (first time the area has been open this season) with no base damage at all. At Vail today, I probably hit another handful of rocks ... again, no significant damage.
Now how does it ski in powder? Just as you imagined. As I've said to people over the weekend, it really isn't fair to ski something like the Comi-Kazi in powder. They make skiing powder seem incredibly effortlessly. Regardless of the pitch, you shouldn't get any tip dive. Most runs this past weekend were in close to 2 feet of powder. You're literally surfing on snow, and it seemed that the ski north of the binding toe piece was completely afloat at all times. The swallowtail does exactly what it should do and it's been designed very well to help sink the tail down for increased flotation.
The flex seems to be okay. I'm sure others will have better insight, but to me, the tip felt soft, underfoot has a medium flex, and the tail being medium-soft. If I had to change the flex, I would make it slightly stiffer near the heel placement of the ski and underfoot. As you would expect from a ski with a 136mm waist, they stomp and feel stable on landings.
Overall, I'm thrilled. The biggest surprise so far is how well the bases have held up; I was definitely expecting some core shots after Saturday and was shocked to find nothing more than a couple of very minor scrapes.
Pros:
+ gives a new perspective on surfing snow
+ bomber bases
Cons:
- you will have to answer a ton of questions about these skis
- doesn't perform well in crud and anything not soft
- could be a tad stiffer underfoot and in the tail
Last edited by Nick Pappagiorgio; 07-29-2008 at 04:20 PM. Reason: refined review
Ski edits | http://vimeo.com/user389737/videos
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12-10-2007, 04:36 AM #2
i cant wait until i get to come home to mine...12 days
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12-10-2007, 09:08 AM #3
spot reserved for me to post thoughts too.
one thing is that while these are called 196's, they are no where near that long. they are shorter by 1cm than my ants (called 191's but measure 193) and about 1 cm longer than my 189 movements, and the running length is significantly shorter than ANTs.Last edited by marshalolson; 12-10-2007 at 09:44 AM.
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12-10-2007, 09:37 AM #4Registered User
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REVIEW: Moment Comi-Kazi
other than their shorter length, how does the CK ski compare to the Comi?
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12-10-2007, 09:42 AM #5
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12-10-2007, 10:30 AM #6
I haven't skied the Comi in powder, but have skied it in pretty much everything else. The Comi felt stiffer all throughout and more stable which would make sense due to the rockered tip of the CK. CK would be strictly for powder, whereas the Comi could be used for more various conditions.
Ski edits | http://vimeo.com/user389737/videos
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12-10-2007, 06:49 PM #7
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12-10-2007, 11:43 PM #8
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12-10-2007, 11:47 PM #9
Son of a bitch...I thought you were going to Vail that day and hence I was unable to molest those with you. Where are you going this upcoming weekend?
Nice tree shot...who is that overweight fellow in that pic???
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12-11-2007, 12:25 AM #10
holy jesus those things are massive
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12-11-2007, 02:53 PM #11
I took the Comi-Kazi out in crud/post-pow conditions and I will never do that again; this is strictly a powder board. I imagine the Comi will be better suited since it doesn't have the rockered tip and felt stiffer when compared to the CK.
Again, I went over a fair share of rocks and logs today and this is the only damage after 3 glorified beatdowns:
Last edited by Nick Pappagiorgio; 12-11-2007 at 02:56 PM.
Ski edits | http://vimeo.com/user389737/videos
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12-11-2007, 03:26 PM #12
nice digestable review. not too technical, not too non-technical. just right.
increases my desire to demo some of these Moment bad boys, though i don't really need something like the CK (eying the Ruby, actually).
danke on the thoughts and for sharing.
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12-11-2007, 03:36 PM #13Ski edits | http://vimeo.com/user389737/videos
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12-11-2007, 04:09 PM #14
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12-11-2007, 04:59 PM #15
^i dunno.
when i picture a rockered tip encountering crud and chop I get a mental image of it bouncing, flopping, and deflecting off the crud and chop as opposed to a more traditional tip that might cut through such conditions like a knife.
Then again I don't know jack about ski construction or mechanics.
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12-11-2007, 05:02 PM #16
This thread confirms that I made the right decision by getting the comi, instead of the CK. Also nice to know I'm only short 6cm of material length, not 10.
Thanks for the review.
On the topic of actual length - is the Moment M1 also shorter than 196 like the CK?
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12-11-2007, 05:12 PM #17
FWIW, the Moment website gives running lengths on all of their skis.
http://www.momentskis.com/
For example, the overall tip to tail length of the M1 is 196 but the running length/effective edge is 165
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12-11-2007, 05:15 PM #18Ski edits | http://vimeo.com/user389737/videos
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12-11-2007, 08:13 PM #19
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12-11-2007, 08:21 PM #20
I really want some m1s, might be my next ski purchase
Three fundamentals of every extreme skier, total disregard for personal saftey, amphetamines, and lots and lots of malt liquor......-jack handy
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12-11-2007, 08:36 PM #21
Make sure to check out the M1 review then:
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105028
Also, they are almost sold out!
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12-12-2007, 06:29 AM #22#1 goal this year......stay alive +
DOWN SKIS
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12-12-2007, 09:28 AM #23is not skiing
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soulskier definitely needs more skis. Maybe pair #20 will be the one?
slopstyle crosscarver junior
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12-12-2007, 09:39 AM #24
I think i'm set on skis until I graduate from UVM, but when I do I can sell the entire east coast quiver and pick up some new skis, which, incidentally, will probably be the 2ed completely new skis I have ever owned...i'm currently thinking a pair of m1s and a pair of iggy fffs or dp 120s
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12-12-2007, 10:14 AM #25
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