atomic hawx boots?

[ulty_guy]

i've been only finding snipets of info about the new hawx boots on the informanet.

from the press release...
The Hawx boot, launched recently, is being marketed as a more organic, flexible extension of the foot, challenging years of boot design that has upheld that stiffer is better. Traditional four-buckle boots, which have changed little since the 70’s, restrict natural movement and hinder balance, making for inefficient use of energy.

so it makes me think that they're going to try and make a pretty flexon-like boot in it's characteristics (more upright, smoother forward lean, etc). these things going to be narrow, or sofa-like?

[trainnvain]

They made this boot so the shell flexes under the bellow of the boot by using a different durometer of plastic (you can see it and feel it molded in) at the sides of the toebox. With this flex combination and a generous lower cuff, I was swimming in these boots when I skied em. My foot is normally just right in an Xwave shell for size comparison.

[L7]

They made this boot so the shell flexes under the bellow of the boot by using a different durometer of plastic (you can see it and feel it molded in) at the sides of the toebox. With this flex combination and a generous lower cuff, I was swimming in these boots when I skied em. My foot is normally just right in an Xwave shell for size comparison.

That's interesting, I haven't tried them on in my size yet. The forefoot isn't as wide as an Xwave and the heel has to be lower volume. You were loose over the instep? Xwaves are big there too.

Basically it looks like a set of gills down either side of the lower boot which is the lower durometer plastic referred to. The whole lower and boot sole is designed to 'give' a bit and they are more upright. 12 degrees.

I'll ski them on Thurs. I think as I think there is a pair my size around now.

[trainnvain]

Dunno what the deal was. They fit me fine in the shop. Could've been that I didn't have my footbed in (DUH!, but I id have trim to fits), but the on hill fit was real sloppy.
Yeah, they were the right width for the mets but the cuff instep height was "boxy or square"? I duuno. I didn't dig em.

[ulty_guy]

12 degrees, holy cow that's upright. i think the most upright you can get on kryptons is 17 degrees and i constantly had to haul my butt out of the backseat for that.

also, wouldn't flex in the boot screw up the release characteristics of the binding?

[300hp]

they feel strange. I did not like. I'm voting no.

[Gunnar]

Have anyone messured, with the boot in a binding, how much the bellow is going down when flexing?
I cant se or feel any flex at all in that area when flexing on the shop floor..

/Gunnar

[[Sir.Holland]]

i have found the softer fore-foot to really bellow out. when i am fitting customer i tend to put people with a little bigger foot in the atomic, as it seems to have more volume in that area.

[Gunnar]

I was a bit dissapointed when i flexed the Hawx in the shop. I would say 95% of the flex are still in the cuff and ankle. And i feel that the shell distorts more then average over the instep when flexing. I pud my hand under the boot as my friend was flexing up and down as hard as he could. And it felt like the bellow was going down 3mm at most.
Its intersting to see how the Hawx could have looked like. Scroll down on this page: http://www.heierling.ch/new/seite_en.php?nav_id=4
Integrated cuff. Flexon like tongue. Buckle over the heelgrip. Large flex zone. (must be a reason the flex zones on all telemark boots have the same design!)
It looks really good to me...