Tecnica ZeroG Tour Pro 2024 touring boot

[LeeLau]

Thinking about these for my next daily driver touring boot. I'm currently on the Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 130 (older dark green ones). Will they walk significantly better? I don't really love the ROM on the Hawx

They'll walk significantly better

[mr_pretzel]

Hey everyone, thought I would jump in on some stuff as I work as a rep and sell Intuition, Tecnica, and Sidas. I worked for Lange for 16 years as well.
Liner insights:

The old ZG liners (look for the yellow) were garbage. Very thin, packed out in two days etc. Very much a too light of a liner for how strong the ZG boot was. It solidified the perception that the ZG liners should be replaced.

For the past two seasons, the ZG liners have gotten heavier and stiffer, especially the tongues. They added the C.A.S. "j bars" around the heel pocket, which, in theory, holds the ankle better.

The new ZG liner (24/25) was designed around the new shell, and is, in my opinion, the best liner for that product for touring. It has even more CAS material in the ankle, thicker and denser foam around the forefoot, and a very stiff collar and most importantly, the tongue. The tongue is thick and very solid for driving this boot. It's the liner if you want lightweight for touring.

The MC (Mission Control) liner (picture above) is a new product for beefing up the new ZG. It's heavier and stiffer, think of it as a combo of the Cochise liner and the new ZG liner. My personal thought on why you would get this liner is: 1. For having 2nd liner for skiing the resort on a trip, and want to bring just ZG boots. 2. You don't care about weight and touring "feel", and just want a beefier liner. I have not tried it as we did not have samples last spring when we were getting the new ZG boot out in the field. I skied the stock new ZG liner and was very impressed. I will give the MC liner a shot this winter.

I sell intuition and Sidas as well, and I tried the following in the new ZG shell:

Intuition Tour Tongue DD 12mm: I did not feel my foot was as "locked in" and the tongue felt very thin and added a lot of feedback when driving the boot. I just felt too much movement in the liner and shell with this one. A little bit warmer though, especially in the toes. (I don't suffer from cold toes in boots etc).

Sidas CRT Slim: Noticeably stiffer than the intuition, but did not tour as well as the Tecnica. The collar and tongue combo in this is VERY stiff and thick and it impeded the range of motion. The Sidas CRT liner is full ultralon foam, which is what Intuition originally started with. Leather tongues which are nice, but get hot when touring etc. IMO, this liner is better suited as an alpine liner replacement.

The stock liners in our boots (including the NEW ZG, NOT the first generation) are some of the most impressive out there. They are well made, and very expensive. For example, the Mach 1 liners cost $220-275 for replacement, where most brands are $110-$120. I got 182 days in my stock Mach 1 liners and I have never gone more than 80 days in others. Give them a shot before thinking you need to replace immediately. Hope this helps, etc.

Skied the new stock liners in the old zero G today. Huge upgrade, actually decent compression and fit, one of the best stock liners I’ve skied. If you like how they fit out of the box I dont think there is a need for a intuition upgrade on this one

[twat]

I’m with you on these complaints. One solution is to just undo the ankle buckle (2nd down). It dramatically improves rear and forward ROM and reduces friction. I don’t notice the buckle being undone in any negative way if your boot cuff is low. Sure maybe scrambling I’d hook it on and pop it forward.

I am still on the old ones, but the 2nd buckle open is a big improvement, glad you posted this info. Just with kick turns on boiler plate I needed to lock the buckle to get edge pressure.

[frorider]

Tried on the new zero g pro tours today, was actually able to get them on my feet (unlike the previous version). The softer plastic on the instep shell overlap helps. Liner seems decent. Bought ‘em, now it looks like I’ll have to remount 3 pairs of bindings since the tech fitting length is quite long compared to my boot quiver (various Scarpa maestrales, transalp pro, etc).

[Rileysump@gmail.com]

The forward lean is defined by the angle the front of the cuff is at, which is the position you drive the ski from. I think there could be an argument that in a 3 piece boot a spoiler actually does increase the forward lean, but in a 2 piece boot it definitely does not. I also think the Tecnica zero g forward lean numbers are off and it also impacted by the internal delta. The 13 degrees on the current zero g feels way more upright to me that 13 degrees on other boots. Right now my mod increases the lean 3 degrees, so I will probably dial it back to 2 degrees with the new boot.

Yo man! Do you think any of these are coming for the new boot? Notice you posted this a minute ago.

[Keijjo]

When Raide's ZGPT forward lean mod has been sold out, I modelled my self a set of lean mods. From 14 deg to 19deg.
https://imgur.com/a/A5PFXKG

[Westcoaster]

I think you underestimate the loads on the heel bar. This is gonna blow your Achilles.

[Keijjo]

I acknowledge the weakness of plastics and tryed to match it to hold those forces, e.g. make it beefier than the aluminum part. This PPA-CF is really strong for nylon and its Young Modulus is between 8000MPa - 9000MPa. But I cant't say for sure it will hold, because I need to do more field tests.

[Wildo]

Has anyone else been getting slop in the pivot points on the new Zero G? Both my boots have been developing slop on the right pivot point. It's about 3mm up and down. Almost looks like the whole rivot is flexing.

[Choucas]

I have a pair of Tecnica Zero G Scouts that are several years old. They developed the same slop issue in the rivets. Probably been getting worse for a while but only noticed it a couple of days ago. Took them to my boot guy an in a matter of minutes they recrimped the rivets and solved the issue. Still a little vertical movement in one of the rivets due to the hole in the cuff getting ovalized. Had I noticed things sooner, I may have gotten ahead of that. I also updated the liners this year with an Atomic Mimic Platinum liner. I tried the current ZGPT liner as well (which I liked) but liked the Atomic better. To me, it felt more like an alpine boot. I'm not doing long tours anymore, so for shorter hikes (2 - 3 hours max, usually less), the Atomic works for me. Very happy with the new liner and it certainly perks up the downhill performance. I use a Booster strap and a spoiler to get good contact around my skinny leg. Have a bontex insert with a minimal heel lift to reduce the flat-footed feeling that most touring boots have. Quite happy with the result.

[LeeLau]

Has anyone else been getting slop in the pivot points on the new Zero G? Both my boots have been developing slop on the right pivot point. It's about 3mm up and down. Almost looks like the whole rivot is flexing.

Not yet. 35+ days

[Wildo]

Not yet. 35+ days

Good to hear and thanks for your answers. I have about 12 days and less then 20runs (all on pinbindings and touring skis). I have turned them in to my local shop and they will talk to tecnica. So fingers crossed I will get new shells.

[oetk2]

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They&#39;ll walk significantly better

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Lee, I know youve skied both, how does the instep compare to a hawx xtd? The original one of that makes any difference.</p>

[jslattsbham]

Skied the new stock liners in the old zero G today. Huge upgrade, actually decent compression and fit, one of the best stock liners I&rsquo;ve skied. If you like how they fit out of the box I dont think there is a need for a intuition upgrade on this one

I am interested in doing this. Did you get the liner listed as Zero G Tour Pro C.A.S. Liner W/ Recco (24/25 And Newer) on the Blizard-Tecnica website? I liked the fit of the original liners on my original ZGPTs (22/23) but thought they skied poorly. Spent a few years trying to make the intuition tour wraps work, but they were always too cramped for my toes and made them cold.

[wilcox510]

No idea what liner size youd be after but here is a 26 for a very good price

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...4-28c03813b28a

[jslattsbham]

Unfortunately I need a 27.5, but thats good idea to check on FB marketplace. I'll check my local.

[~mikey b]

2022 Tecnica Zero G Tour Women’s 23-23.5


105 flex - very good condition - maybe a dozen days on them - no punches or liner work - I can throw in a rear spoiler for more forward lean if you want


$300 plus shipping

[LeeLau]

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Lee, I know youve skied both, how does the instep compare to a hawx xtd? The original one of that makes any difference.</p>

It's ever so slightly higher. That compares the 2023 ZGTP vs the older Hawx XTD.

From a skiing fit perspective it didn't make a noticeable difference. From getting the boot on the XTD is harder to get on. In part due to lower instep

[oetk2]

Thanks!

[everett.b.young@gmail.com]

Any update on the mission control liners? An option in between intuition and zipfit in terms of weight, stiffness/control, and price seems interesting.

[bthomson22]

Had a chance to try on the new boot alongside my old style ZGTP (2022 version). I didnt ski in them, merely walked around for a bit. This was after we just finished up a ski day, so differences were quite notable with my already sore feet (was a 8 hour day after all). Note this is with ZipFit GFT liners that are working beautifully with my existing boots (25.5 boots, 25.5 liners).

• First, I was definitely able to notice the improved shape of the toe box. It felt like my toes had a lot more room to splay - no bumping into one another. I really, really liked the feeling.
• The instep does feel a bit taller. I couldnt tell if this would be a good thing for me, because I really like a locked down feel, but I cant say it was concerning to start - skiing them would tell me what I need to know.
• I had a 6th toe punch on my boots, and these boots (no punches) felt great out of the box - definitely improved foot shape.
• The forward lean as noticeable, and damn was I jealous. Seems much improved. - Just walking around the boot room, I could tell these moved through their ROM easier - and had slightly more ROM in general - an improvement.
• I didnt notice any &quot;slop&quot; in the ankle - something I was concerned about. It feels minimally changed (or not changed at all!?).
• Now for the &quot;bad&quot; - I struggled to get the new boots on - even with a boot horn (world cup style, since zipfit). The instep area was biting HARD on my foot/liner - much more so than the old boots. Perhaps because they were cold? But it was very, very noticeable. I thought it was supposed to be easier!? Thats really the only bad thing I could think of... Overall they felt great!

Id really like to upgrade to these next year, as my current boots are getting quite sloppy after 3 hard years of use. But, to be honest, I probably wont make the move until something catastrophic happens (or if I find a really good deal).

[LeeLau]

bthomson - can't quote you as it garbles. I'm now at 50+ days on ZGTP (new version) and still have no ankle slop which is probably the most important update. The liner is now starting to pack out. 50+ days is better than the older version which packed out substantially quicker. I really should just finish my review already and publishAgreed with impressions with following caveats- re touring feel. I felt the increased "walkability" was due also to the pivots being relatively friction-free when I detached the buckles and let them swing free. FWIW I only detached the 3rd buckle, flipped the bottom 2 open and alternated between letting the 4th buckle swing/flip open. That 3rd buckle makes a lot of difference - to me. The 4th buckle makes minor difference - to me; on the flat glaciers but not so much on climbing. So yes, the forward ROM is noticeable but I felt the overall improvement on touring was due to a multitude of factors. Play with your buckles to tune what you like- re instep and getting in. I still remain neutral on that. It's not the easiest boot to put on but by no means is it the hardest.

[frorider]

lol. Since so many of us are skiing this boot, sometimes 6 out of 8 skiers at trailhead have them on and it is amusing to listen to complaints about how ridiculously hard they are to get on when vaguely cold. Including a guy who had to finish a traverse in his running shoes on the snow. Be thankful you have zero instep height Lee. Ive had plug boots easier to get on than these fuckers. But once I get them on via heat guns, nuclear powered jackhammer etc, they are comfortable all day long.