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[NuMexJoe]

And changing the travel anywhere from 140-180 is a 15 minute process at zero cost.

You're not really helping, ya know. I don't even know why I asked since I don't have a bike that NEEDS such a bump. But I do have a couple that would undoubtedly be improved.... Hopefully someone else takes advantage of Boissal's offer. Otherwise, I'll be hitting up you and Collard on tuning tips for the Smash or Rail fork upgrade.

[Roxtar]

You're not really helping, ya know. I don't even know why I asked since I don't have a bike that NEEDS such a bump. But I do have a couple that would undoubtedly be improved.... Hopefully someone else takes advantage of Boissal's offer. Otherwise, I'll be hitting up you and Collard on tuning tips for the Smash or Rail fork upgrade.

Takes about an hour to turn a really good fork into a damn near perfect one.
Ahm jus sayin...

[smmokan]

Niner has to be the next company to cease operations, right? I thought the only people who bought Niner bikes were folks living in FtC, but now that they're relocating...

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/united...s-in-ohio.html

[skaredshtles]

Niner has to be the next company to cease operations, right? I thought the only people who bought Niner bikes were folks living in FtC, but now that they're relocating...

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/united...s-in-ohio.html

Ohio: where bicycle companies go to die.

Could be a state slogan or something...

[joetron]

What are Sid and Macky gonna ride if that happens?!
Fezzari?
Wait? Are they already riding Fazzari?


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[smmokan]

They're probably the only reason anyone even thinks of Niner anymore, TBH.

Fezzari is too busy sponsoring Mo and Hannah.

[jm2e]

Didn’t Niner already go bankrupt a few years ago?


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[smmokan]

Yep, that’s when they were bought up by PE.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Is Fezzari pronounced like the double z in pizza or is it like the Moroccan hat?

[volklpowdermaniac]

Realized it's been a while since I've updated my various bike registrations. Where are we in 2023 in terms of which is the best index/directory? Still have to get info to multiple sites to be comprehensive or has industry accepted a standard? (yeah f'in right.)

[Touring_Sedan]

Is Fezzari pronounced like the double z in pizza or is it like the Moroccan hat?

Hat. Here in the holy land where they're made it's the quintessential beaters bike. I'm pretty sure they come with a temple recommend and an invitation to join a MLM scheme.

[smmokan]

My friend has a higher end build La Sal Peak (170mm travel), it’s a pretty sick looking bike in person.

[volklpowdermaniac]

Realized it's been a while since I've updated my various bike registrations. Where are we in 2023 in terms of which is the best index/directory? Still have to get info to multiple sites to be comprehensive or has industry accepted a standard? (yeah f'in right.)

Nope the answer is both 529 and Bikeindex are active a few comparisons suggest Bikeindex has become the more robust resource but I just figured load em all up in both.

[jamal]

Bikeindex integrates with a pretty popular point of sale system, so some shops can automatically register new bike purchases on there. I've been meaning to figure out how to set that up actually. They will also actually try to investigate bike thefts. Like all those bikes getting stolen from shops and winding up for sale on facebook in mexico

https://bikeindex.org/news/closing-t...ikes-stolen-in

[Dantheman]

Can you mix-and-match Shimano brake components? Specifically, can I run XT lever assemblies with MT201 calipers?

[Phall]

From what I recall Shimano interchangeablilty shouldn't be an isssue. Gwin was running XTR race (non-servowave) levers on Saint Calipers for a long time. MT201 may be different given the quality/spec/fluid displacement, but i'd think theres no issue.

[dannynoonan]

I'm currently running 2010-ish SLX levers on current-ish Zee 4 pot and XT 2 pot calipers. Probably 10 years between their production dates and they feel perfect.

My guess is they'll work perfectly

[Dantheman]

Sweet, thanks. My new commuter came with MT201s and while they stop me just fine the 3-finger levers are an abomination. I remembered last weekend that I have some 2018-ish XTs in the parts bin, should be a solid upgrade.

[Dee Hubbs]

Can you mix-and-match Shimano brake components? Specifically, can I run XT lever assemblies with MT201 calipers?

From what I recall Shimano interchangeablilty shouldn't be an isssue. Gwin was running XTR race (non-servowave) levers on Saint Calipers for a long time. MT201 may be different given the quality/spec/fluid displacement, but i'd think theres no issue.

Yes they are compatible. But:
MT-200 series use the BH59 brake hose, and any XT will use the newer higher pressure BH90 hose.

You will see some improvement with the new XT levers, old BH59 hose and old MT200 calipers.
You will see a better improvement with new XT levers, new BH90 hose and old MT200 calipers.

The BH90 is the same external size as BH59, but with a smaller internal diameter on the BH90. This means the BH90 outer casing is thicker and does not deform under hydraulic pressure. The olives are the same size, but the internal barb are different sizes.

[volklpowdermaniac]

Yes they are compatible. But:
MT-200 series use the BH59 brake hose, and any XT will use the newer higher pressure BH90 hose.

You will see some improvement with the new XT levers, old BH59 hose and old MT200 calipers.
You will see a better improvement with new XT levers, new BH90 hose and old MT200 calipers.

The BH90 is the same external size as BH59, but with a smaller internal diameter on the BH90. This means the BH90 outer casing is thicker and does not deform under hydraulic pressure. The olives are the same size, but the internal barb are different sizes.

Great info. Was always kind of wondering this every time I got a new bike to change cable length or some shit

[Dantheman]

Yes they are compatible. But:
MT-200 series use the BH59 brake hose, and any XT will use the newer higher pressure BH90 hose.

You will see some improvement with the new XT levers, old BH59 hose and old MT200 calipers.
You will see a better improvement with new XT levers, new BH90 hose and old MT200 calipers.

The BH90 is the same external size as BH59, but with a smaller internal diameter on the BH90. This means the BH90 outer casing is thicker and does not deform under hydraulic pressure. The olives are the same size, but the internal barb are different sizes.

FWIW, these are brand new MT201s not "old" ones. Also, I'm not really looking for improved braking performance, I just want a civilized brake lever that isn't a mile long. HUGE thanks for the clarification on BH59/BH90 hose. I ordered a barb/olive kit yesterday and it was BH90, would have sucked big time to have the brakes pulled apart find out the barbs are too small.

[Dee Hubbs]

FWIW, these are brand new MT201s not "old" ones. Also, I'm not really looking for improved braking performance, I just want a civilized brake lever that isn't a mile long. HUGE thanks for the clarification on BH59/BH90 hose. I ordered a barb/olive kit yesterday and it was BH90, would have sucked big time to have the brakes pulled apart find out the barbs are too small.

I didn't meant to imply that the MT200 were old, I should have said
You will see a better improvement with upgraded XT levers, upgraded BH90 hose and original MT200 calipers.
All hoses are marked BH90 or BH59.
BH59 are brass:

BH90 are silver

The olives are the same for both.

[Dantheman]

Cool, I ordered a BH59 kit but I'll check the hose markings tonight. I'm not upgrading the hoses. Swapping the levers is an easy job, swapping the hoses is not and not worth the trouble on a commuter.

[VTskibum]

Haha I run those on my dirt jumper and they’re so far inward, never really thought about how long the levers are as I don’t have any shifters or anything else. They do work fine for non trail use cases


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[rideit]

Curious. I got a bulk bag of BH59 barbs a while ago, and I have been using them with BH90 hoses for years now, to seemingly no ill affect. I always sorta wondered what the difference was.
Is there a perceptible difference to a truly ‘tuned in’ rider or Pro?
This hack sure can’t tell.