The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

[fencejack]

Fencejack, did you check skimo.com?

I haven't but I just did and doesn't look like they have what I'm looking for. Thanks for the recommendation though.

[KillerMonkey]

Shift2 coming

https://blisterreview.com/industry-n...edium=campaign

[TahoeJ]

Shift2 coming

https://blisterreview.com/industry-n...edium=campaign

Well, sounds like they addressed the two major issues, so that's good. I lost trust in the OG but I'd be willing to give 2.0 a try. This kind of puts to rest any debate that there were indeed issues.

[Supermoon]

Well, sounds like they addressed the two major issues, so that's good. I lost trust in the OG but I'd be willing to give 2.0 a try. This kind of puts to rest any debate that there were indeed issues.

I never had issues with mine, but I had a touring ISO so the AFD was at the bottom, and downsized my brakes a bit so I didn’t ever really clip them while walking. But the fact that people had such wildly different experiences with them isn’t good

[Name Redacted]

All of the sudden my toe lever wont stay up when skinning. Any quick fixes?

[SnowMachine]

Well, sounds like they addressed the two major issues, so that's good. I lost trust in the OG but I'd be willing to give 2.0 a try. This kind of puts to rest any debate that there were indeed issues.

I'll let someone else be the guinea pig to see if they fixed the pre-release issues on V2. The AFD was fine once it was set correctly. Even the brakes dropping wasn't the end of the world. Having one ski come off multiple times on bumpy runouts finally prompted me to take them out of the rotation.

I love the concept of the Shift. I'd have another set if the heel piece has been fixed. I think they lacked effective elastic travel or it was something to do with ski flex/rebound. I got to the point of basically knowing what would make them release.

[samp]

All of the sudden my toe lever wont stay up when skinning. Any quick fixes?

There's a replacement for the cover of the front DIN gauge with wider nubs on the side to keep the lever up. I got a set free at a Salomon dealer.

[Name Redacted]

There's a replacement for the cover of the front DIN gauge with wider nubs on the side to keep the lever up. I got a set free at a Salomon dealer.

Nice thank you.

[Name Redacted]

There's a replacement for the cover of the front DIN gauge with wider nubs on the side to keep the lever up. I got a set free at a Salomon dealer.

Nice thank you.

[Cocximus]

I have been having a really good time on Shifts this season. Paired with katanas they make El Nino feel like it has pretty good snow. I set them up from the start according to the NS article. Zero problems even skiing them inbounds. Sure they are finicky and heavy but so rewarding to ski. If the tour doesn't involve a lot of bootpacking I find myself taking the Shift + Katanas way more than the BMT + Trab Vario2.

What's the deal with the two position toe lever? What happens if I forget to push it all the way down? Sorry, TL;DR.

[stuntmanbo]

I don’t feel any difference between a Shift and a ATK FR on the down so I fail to see how it’s that rewarding to ski.
Actually you may enjoy the down less with the shift since you’ll be more tired (and annoyed because the brakes released multiple times during the tour)

[LeeLau]

I have been having a really good time on Shifts this season. Paired with katanas they make El Nino feel like it has pretty good snow. I set them up from the start according to the NS article. Zero problems even skiing them inbounds. Sure they are finicky and heavy but so rewarding to ski. If the tour doesn't involve a lot of bootpacking I find myself taking the Shift + Katanas way more than the BMT + Trab Vario2.

What's the deal with the two position toe lever? What happens if I forget to push it all the way down? Sorry, TL;DR.

It doesn't hurt ski performance or release if you forget to push it down

[Cocximus]

It doesn't hurt ski performance or release if you forget to push it down

Thanks. Kinda weird it's there, but doesent do anything.

I don’t feel any difference between a Shift and a ATK FR on the down so I fail to see how it’s that rewarding to ski.
Actually you may enjoy the down less with the shift since you’ll be more tired (and annoyed because the brakes released multiple times during the tour)

You need to dial up your full send downhill and uphill fitness [emoji14]

Ski and binding weight, as well as dampness, are very noticeable on high-traffic wet coastal Whistler snow.

[Full Trucker]

Thanks. Kinda weird it's there, but doesent do anything.

It does do something... it locks the toe in place when the binding is in walk mode.

[KillerMonkey]

I have been having a really good time on Shifts this season. Paired with katanas they make El Nino feel like it has pretty good snow. I set them up from the start according to the NS article. Zero problems even skiing them inbounds. Sure they are finicky and heavy but so rewarding to ski. If the tour doesn't involve a lot of bootpacking I find myself taking the Shift + Katanas way more than the BMT + Trab Vario2.

What's the deal with the two position toe lever? What happens if I forget to push it all the way down? Sorry, TL;DR.

Same here, I replaced the pivots on my pescados with shifts this year and I might be crazy but they I think I prefer the shifts to the pivots for the downhill on these skis. Probably the lower weight helping with the skiing style specific to the pescados but have been very happy using them as slackcountry skis.

[gramboh]

Still loving how Shifts ski inbounds years later. I'm down to one ski setup now, Hawx XTD on Hojis with Shifts and yeah, they do not tour as well as my Radicals did, not even close, but they are good enough for slack and I can power through the very rare big day I get. As the kids get older and I get more me-days on snow I'll probably go back to a two ski setup, but Hawx (with TourWrap) and Shifts have been great the past 6 seasons. Radicals were torture to ski inbounds in comparison.

[stuntmanbo]

I don't know how many of you skied the exact same ski with Shifts and lighter bindings, but l did.
I had 2x Katana V Werks 184, one in Shifts, one in R12 + freeride spacer.
And 2x BMX 105 181 (real freeride ski at 2150g), one in Shifts, one in R12 + freeride spacer.
The weight penalty is absolutely not worth it even for what you us guys are calling sidecountry.
I don't feel a real difference on the downhill.
At first I was more confident on the shifts but after reading the horror prerelease stories here and there, not so much.
For super short approach I'll consider a CAST v2, not a Shift.

[stuntmanbo]

Also, the BMX 105 / R15 is 2520g and feels much better than the Katana VW / Shift at 2750g.

Weight is useful in the ski, not in the bindings.

For exemple, I’m pretty certain than a Blade Optic 186 / FR15 (2350g + 400g = 2750g) will be way damper than a Rustler 11 24 186 / Shift (2040g + 820g = 2860g), even though the later setup overall weight is higher.

[LeeLau]

It does do something... it locks the toe in place when the binding is in walk mode.

You're right of course. I thought Coxcimus was asking if the Shift toe lever did anything if raised when used downhill mode

[Cocximus]

You're right of course. I thought Coxcimus was asking if the Shift toe lever did anything if raised when used downhill mode

Yea that was my question.

Stuntmanbo you are tempting me to try the Trab Vario 2 on the katanas.

[altacoup]

I haven’t skied the same ski with a shift vs tech binding. But no tech binding I’ve ever skied skis as well as a shift. Do they suck to set up? Yes. Need constant adjustment as they setting migrate like all Salomon’s. Yes. But when everything thing is dialed they ski great. I know that Cody has skied every Salomon binding with the same boot, same ski and even skiing different bindings on each foot. He prefers the feel of the shift. There’s also a mag who used to work for Salomon who feels the same. I personally wouldn’t use them as a DD. But the last MSP movie Cody skied in, every line was skied in pre production shifts. Very few people are skiing movie lines on tech bindings.

All that said I have a pair of hojis with dynafit radicals (hate the ramp angle and even the thickest shim won’t get me to where I need to be. Have some shifts in the closet but the mount pattern overlaps in the heel. Anyone remember how much heel adjustment there is? Need to mount heel either forward or behind the radical holes.




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[~mikey b]

I’ve been on the same pair of Shifts on Blizzard Gunsmoke for a few years now and they ski just fine

I rarely go up with them

but

I won’t have a ski without some sorta touring binding and I always have skins in my pack skiing in/out of the ski area

I was skiing them the other day and they were great

[~mikey b]

but I have to admit

I was looking down at them while riding a chair and I wasn’t sure I remembered how to put them in touring mode

🤣

[~mikey b]

I’ve mounted several pair and they’ve been super easy to set up

I’ve looked at a couple rigs I mounted recently and they still look good

forward pressure and toe height still spot on

[Spyderjon]

.......Have some shifts in the closet but the mount pattern overlaps in the heel. Anyone remember how much heel adjustment there is? Need to mount heel either forward or behind the radical holes.

Shift heels have 30mm of overall length adjustment. When the jig is set to your bsl then after mounting you'll have 18mm of forward movement and 12mm rearward, give or take a tad.