Volkl BMT 94 - how good is it?

[sf]

Sure, but since it’s a 94mm-waisted ski it would not surprise me if many bought it as a touring ski for firmer conditions and found it less than stellar.

The 94s main selling point (for me) is the combination of narrow enough to handle firm snow on the up (ski crampons for the win), while having enough float and maneuverability to handle mushy snow and or steep/tight terrain AND enough stability to handle high speeds on good snow.

In addition a medium sidecut, consistent medium flex and long effective edge when tipped over makes it predictable - if not good - on most kinds of crappy snow.

But no, it’s not very similar to most other touring skis in its waist-class. Which is why I’m on my second pair, with close to a hundred days on them since it hit the market

[tgapp]

Curious what conditions everyone is finding themselves using the 94 in most? After combing through this thread and reading all the love this ski gets has got me interested. Currently have a mid fat ski I use for all my touring and after last winter wished I had a narrower ski to continue my season into the spring. Would the 94 be a wise choice on firm snow/corn? Or should I look for something with some camber? I'm a bigger guy around 200lbs not kitted and think I'd lean more towards the 186cm length.

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I am on my first pair of BMT94s and I probably have close to 100 days on them. For their waist width, they are absolute powder crushing machines. They excel when long days of powder skiing, tight trees, and longer objectives where you will encounter a variety of different conditions. One of my all time favorite corn machines, like others have said, but I don't ski a lot of corn in the Wasatch.

That said - skiing the paradise glacier in perfect corn with my bmt94s will always be one of my best ski memories - as someone not from the PNW, corn is a bit of a delicacy and I could not imagine a better ski for that day.

In frozen and challenging conditions, their long side cut makes them predictable and manageable, but more highly cambered skis will always win out when you are dealing with truly bulletproof conditions.

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[fleaches]

I spent most of last winter switching back and forth between a BMT94 and Billy goat 108s. The goats were of course a joy in fresh show, but I guess I was surprised at how much fun the BMTs were in snow that I'd normally take the goats for.

Surprising amount of float for a narrow ski, easy to pivot, a bit lighter than the goats but not twitchy or anything. They were fun on powder, corn, windbuff etc but they really shine when there's a bit of crust. I mean not like a full RR ski, but they are so much more manageable and even fun in a thin crust. I suspect they get so much love here because they work well in just about anything you'd want to ski on (and even in some conditions where you might not otherwise want to ski at all).

Before the BMTs I had some older zero g 95s (1st or 2nd Gen). I hear the new versions are more friendly, but those were sort of the opposite of the BMTs. They were a lot of fun if you had consistent corn or were sking down a fresh groomer after up hilling at a resort, anywhere you could really open up and not be too worried about speed. They may have been more fun than the BMTs in these conditions since I feel like they had some good rebound out of a turn once you're going really fast. They were not fun in more variable conditions though. They didn't float very well, were super punishing if you ever got in the back seat, were a lot more twitchy, and just sort of had a mind of their own sometimes. I remember so many times trying to make a turn, hitting some variable snow and getting *slightly* backseat, and then going for a ride. BMTs on the other hand require no thought to turn, it just happens automatically.

If the snow ever turns on in the Sierra I'm excited to get my HL bc90s out too.

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[Benneke10]

It’s a great corn-harvester. It’s not that great on refrozen / not yet thawed. But if you ski conservatively it will work fine. Trying to ski it fast on edge in rough icy conditions does not work for me

Is that because a cambered ski might have a little more suspension in those situations? I take the BMT94 when I have no idea what the snow will be like, when I am anticipating some crusts and challenging snow, and when a line is close to the limit of my abilities. They are just so damp, predictable and maneuverable compared to other touring skis.

On refrozen, I do know the harsh feeling you get with reverse camber skis but that is a worthy tradeoff for the increased control I on non-smooth icy snow. Its not like anyone is nuking in those conditions in the backcountry on lightweight boots anyways.

[sf]

Is that because a cambered ski might have a little more suspension in those situations?

That and/or the lay up, I guess.
For the rest of your points I totally agree.

My point was only that if somebody buys the 94 based on an assumption of its waist width making it a great ski for harder conditions they would probably be less than thrilled

[riff]

I was looking at skis in the garage attic reserve yesterday- oddly, the 176 BMT94’s i scored from Evo this fall are sitting there with a bit of camber. Weird.


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[sf]

I was looking at skis in the garage attic reserve yesterday- oddly, the 176 BMT94’s i scored from Evo this fall are sitting there with a bit of camber. Weird.


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I think there are some variations in the BMTs. My pair of 109s have a more subtle reverse profile than others I’ve seen

[Dantheman]

I've taken mine out twice now. I'm not sure if they're just too light, have a little too much rocker, or it's the combination of the two, but I'm not that into them and am thinking about selling them. If anyone is interested, let me know. Would prefer a local pickup in the SLC area but I'll ship at buyer's expense if they don't sell locally. Just looking to recoup what I paid, $160. 186 cm flavor with Attack 13 demos. I'll get pics up in the near future.

[jackattack]

I've taken mine out twice now. I'm not sure if they're just too light, have a little too much rocker, or it's the combination of the two, but I'm not that into them and am thinking about selling them. If anyone is interested, let me know. Would prefer a local pickup in the SLC area but I'll ship at buyer's expense if they don't sell locally. Just looking to recoup what I paid, $160. 186 cm flavor with Attack 13 demos. I'll get pics up in the near future.

This doesn’t strike me as a inbounds quiver ski. Needs a light pin and natural snow imho.

[fleaches]

I've taken mine out twice now. I'm not sure if they're just too light, have a little too much rocker, or it's the combination of the two, but I'm not that into them and am thinking about selling them. If anyone is interested, let me know. Would prefer a local pickup in the SLC area but I'll ship at buyer's expense if they don't sell locally. Just looking to recoup what I paid, $160. 186 cm flavor with Attack 13 demos. I'll get pics up in the near future.

What kind of shape are they in?

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[ASmileyFace]

At that price with that binding, I'd be interested. Not located in SLC though and I imagine someone else will jump on em first.

[tgapp]

This doesn’t strike me as a inbounds quiver ski. Needs a light pin and natural snow imho.

100% bmts would make an absolute dog shit inbounds ski, woof

they're literally among my favorite skis of all time and you couldn't pay me to ski them inbounds, no way.

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[Dantheman]

Westcoaster snagged these. Since I missed the memo about these being shit for inbounds, I think I'll also sell the 166s I picked up for my kid (he still hasn't skied them). Same bindings, same price, in excellent shape, PM me if interested.

[Blaster]

Can anyone compare the edge hold of the 94s on proper firm conditions to the blizzard 0G105?

[sruffian]

In the market if anyone is holding. Passed my pair on w ~125-150 days that had an edge pulling out and still miss them. 186 but would try 176 as a lightweight dicking around ski


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[Dantheman]

BMT bump

[Westcoaster]

@dantheman, trying to resist your other pair for my wife. Anyways, theres a pair of 94s in gear swap...

[dub_xion]

PSA on some 176s in the PNW: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/guN...ibextid=K35XfP

[Sklimber]

Has anyone had issues installing quiver killer inserts in their's? I'm planning on using some existing holes (dynafit radical ST). I've only done inserts in skis with a plate before. Any tips?

[tgapp]

Has anyone had issues installing quiver killer inserts in their's? I'm planning on using some existing holes (dynafit radical ST). I've only done inserts in skis with a plate before. Any tips?

I have inserts on mine with 50+ days on them, maybe more. Use good epoxy and let them cure upside down.

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[Va Ki Bo]

Any tips?

If your bindings' screws template goes outside of the mounting "H"-platform (i.e. through the core's void channels) - be carefull to not overscrew the inserts during installation as it is super easy to make vulcanoes on ski bases)

[fleaches]

Not my sale but could potentially help facilitate

https://reno.craigslist.org/spo/d/tr...734398276.html

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[kid-kapow]

man, took my 176s out for a spin a couple of days ago. The snow = slushy suction fest (supersoft sunbaked snow), but man, BMT94s are so dead easy to ski that I still had fun. Simply unbelievable that this ski was discontinued.

Then again, the BMT line is gone too - high price and low sales prob. And limited novelty ten years in, even if the performance is all time for of them. It will be interesting to see what they launch to replace them - Blaze/Rise surely ain't it

[Westcoaster]

Dredging this up. What's the current wisdom on Mount with modern ramps and boots? Finally getting around to mounting mine and was thinking +1, but it sounds like opinions vary from -1 to +2.

[Lord Thomas]

On the line will make them do what they were born to do. Or......you could mount them at +4 - proclaim that they are ill conceived pieces of shit and sell them to me at a significant discount.....whereupon I will mount them on the line and live happily ever after. Best bet is to not try to make them something they are not and enjoy the fact that they are still a class leading ski for how they are intended to be skied. If standard Volkl is not how you like to ski it might be best to move on to something that better matches your description of perfect. YMMV IMO