Pulling boot liners at the end of every day, Yay or Nay?

[hutash]

I pull mine each day because I find the outside is wet as well from snow sneaking in. Intuition's seem to be holding up well, but I don't ski that many days. It. Seems like the flex would weaken them, but I can't really see any problems.

How hot is too hot for intuition's?

[XXX-er]

Doesn't Intuition say to not use warm boot dryers? Do folks use boot dryers with baked liners?

I use the forced air from a brand new 95% HE furnace which is not as hot as what a 70% low E furnace of 30 yrs ago put out

I just lay the boots on the floor infront of a vertical forced air grill but I am going to rig something up with PVC pipe that goes over a horizontal heater vent

[beaterdit]

My boot dryer blows 100 degree air. I'm guessing most central gas forced air heating is about the same, certainly no harm there. Wouldn't want to go much warmer though.

[El Chupacabra]

I don't know what temp the Intuition blowers are at for molding, but I've cooked them in the oven at about 210*. The heat out of a boot dryer or household HVAC duct isn't anywhere near enough to affect the mold.

I use "dry stix" radiant heat things to dry my boots, and haven't noticed any adverse effect on Intuition liners. If I've been skiing deeper snow or sweaty backcountry, I'll pull the liners every other day or so to dry them out, as I seem to get moisture between the liner and boot shell too. I don't pull the liners every day.

[Nobody Famous]

a) Do you pull your liners at the end of each ski day to dry them inside and out? b) Does all the flexing break down the liners quicker, c) or is the chronic moisture and mank more damaging? d) Do boot dryers dry between the shell and liner well enough?

a) Almost every day. It's sort of like brushing your teeth, it may not be readily apparent why you do it so often, and when I do skip a day I feel guilty about it.
b) No.
c) Yes, the moisture is not good. I usually keep the inside platform (the zeppa board?) unscrewed from the shell and pull it out if I suspect there's any water in there. Learned this from some hard-core racers.
d) Not well enough. You have to separate the two for any dryer to work overnight.

extra credit:
f) HotTronic makes this very handy device:

You can find for < $60, it has a shutoff timer on it, it's quiet, and can double as a glove dryer (although not at same time as drying boots).

[StopMakingSense]

Ski like ~100 days and use the above HotTronic device, never pull my liners out. I do leave the bottom buckles unbuckled to let the moisture escape though. I've never really had a problem with mank or anything. I usually just leave the boot dryer on its 24 hour run around. A usual day is...

- Turn the dryer off and get out at 9:15 or 10ish
- Get back at 2pm with wet boots
- Leave the dryer running in the boots until the next morning, all the moisture seems to be just about gone with no difference in the mold as the dryer doesn't get that hot

I even asked this question to Bootsie at Inkline Foot and he told me to just leave liners in if I have a dryer.

[dcpnz]

sometime pull and sometimes don't - judgement call based on whether visible moisture inside shell and whether it was a sweaty outing

i use one of those hotronic dryers ^^^^^ every time though - definitely helps eliminate the stink
doesn't get hot enough to affect a thermo liner - barely more than room temp

[booner]

The moisture that gets trapped in there eats away at the hardware too. Mostly from salt/sweat I think.

[2stix]

I have zip fits and there is no way in hell I can get my foot into that boot with the liner in the boot. I have to take the liner out, put my foot in it and put that combo into the boot.
So my liner comes out of the boot when I get home to dry, back in to store, back out to put it on, and back in to ski. So 2 times each day of skiing.
I even have the hot gear bag and it is used to get it all warm in the morning to help the zip fit mold to my foot faster and to get the boot shell soft to get the combo of my foot and liner it the boot. I still take it out to dry. I know I could leave it in the bag to dry, but unless I'm in a pinch, I let them air dry.
I have probably 300 days on the zip fits in 2 different boots and they are still good to go. I don't have experience with intuitions, so no idea if this would effect them the same or not.
My new titans ul are proving to be rougher on the removal and install process, but should be good to go once I nail the process. I think walk mode definitely is gentler on them getting them in and out.

[Nobody Famous]

To add some context to where water goes once inside a boot -- some old-school racers clued me in to this years ago: If any snow gets inside your shell (obviously more likely to happen in deep powder then from eastern hardpack), it will melt once the boot is brought inside and the boot warms to room temp. Either the liner absorbs the liquid, or more likely the case the liners are impervious or have a thin film coating the outside, the fluid seeps down to the lowest level, which is below the boot board into the openings and cavities below it. If you need proof, check to see if the fasteners holding the boot board are rusted, or it there's any moisture below the boot board.

[StopMakingSense]

[QUOTE=dcpnz;3493402]sometime pull and sometimes don't/QUOTE]

that's what she said

[Bosco]

Nope, not a sweater, and I'm more concerned about grabbing a beer and some nachos.

More importantly, do you change your underwear every day, yay or nay?

[Magnoe]

I e-mailed Intuition customer service with this question as I recently bought a Dry Guy as well. Here was the response:


Sorry ~ it is NOT a good idea to dry the liners with any heat.

Pull them out of the shells to dry a bit faster.

They are closed cell foam, so the liners will not absorb moisture, just the fabric.

[DeepHelmet]

Got one o' them super fancy Ski Gear heated boot bags and it totally dries my boots overnight. I pulled the liners out in the morning and they were dry. I checked under the boot boards and there was no water. Bag seems to work great, I know there was water between the shell and liner when I put them in there, and it was all gone.

[LC]

I pull mine out every night and leave them near a radiator (on the floor, about a foot away). Dry boots == warm boots. My only concern is tearing up the outside of the liners from rubbing on rivets/etc on the inside of the shell, especially those on the spine. The intuitions in my Bodacious are showing the first signs of this already so I'm going to duct tape over the rivets and those areas on the liner too as a protective layer - they'll probably not stick long to the liner but it won't hurt to try.

[hutash]

I e-mailed Intuition customer service with this question as I recently bought a Dry Guy as well. Here was the response:


Sorry ~ it is NOT a good idea to dry the liners with any heat.

Pull them out of the shells to dry a bit faster.

They are closed cell foam, so the liners will not absorb moisture, just the fabric.

^^^...but what do they know


Looks like I just saved money by not having to buy a boot dryer.

[Jacques Strap]

Instead of starting a new thread, I guess I’ll just bump this vintage one.

Seems like the consensus is pull the liners each night, maybe leave them in if you have a forced air drying system.

I don’t have a dryer, and it’s so fucking easy to yank the Intuitions out of my Full Tilts that I don’t think I’m shortening their lifespan in doing so.

My question is, should I also pull my foot beds (Foot Dynamics Alpine Ski orthotics, Kydex shell, cork fill, velour laminated top) every night after skiing? They are a stiff insole heel to toe, and I’m a little worried I might break the damn things if I’m not super careful

[buttahflake]

Have I answered yet? Pull them and the footbeds every freaking time!

[XXX-er]

I ended up getting a Maxxdry XL , I just stick the boots on the stacks without removing the liner, it will dry a pair of boots and pair of gloves, no problems as far as I can see, it has a setting for heat or just air

[SoVT Joey]

Ski adult liners (zipfit) to start with and they come out of the shell like they are supposed to. I leave my shells in my truck all the time. Half the time they are laying in the bed under a cover. Liners always get dried with no insoles and with no heat.

[FloridaSnow]

Always. I sweat like a monster and I ski the entire day. So my liners are soaked.

I always pull the liner and remove the foot beds. Then I use these dryers. They work fantastic. Cigarette plug as well so you can use them in the car if needed or wall plug for rooms and hotels.

its not too hot but very warm air. Always works.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/cnn-undersco...guy-boot-dryer

[sb]

Out and on the dryer every time.

[skuff]

Liners and footbeds out every night. May use the floor heat register to dry the liners, but that's typically unnecessary

edit: Full Tilt boots with Intuitions make for easy removal

[tenB]

The new hawx mimic pro liner is near impossible to insert at room temperature. I have to heat the shell and liner in a boot bag, then it’s still a wrestling match. I didn’t have that problem with the original mimic pro in the same Hawx ultra 130 shell. Needless to say, liners stay in and I dry with a boot dryer, no heat.

[Shorty_J]

The stock liners in my mach1 LV are so difficult to get in I sometimes skin my knuckles if I forget to wear a glove when I put them in.

I don't want to do that every time I ski.

I have a homemade air only dryer for the inside of the liners and it seems to do the job fine.

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