Food poisoning from Tuna? THIS SUCKS!

[BurnHard]

So last night around 6pm I had dinner with my roomate and her friends ... They got take-out sushi, and a bunch of fresh clams and oysters at the local seafood market (I'm in Florida atm, not Boulder ), plus a big fresh tuna steak.

I ate everything that was offered, and while cooking the Tuna steak I tried a TINY piece raw since it looked and smelled (and tasted) ridiculously fresh.

About 6 hours later I started having extreme dizziness attacks, nausea, couldn't stand straight, had to lie down. Felt like puking although no vomiting all night or all day today.... over 24hours later I'm still dizzy as fuck, haven't vomited once or had any diarrhea.

WHAT THE FUCK is going on!? I initially figured it would be food poisoning from the tiny piece of raw tuna, my roommate and her friends didn't get sick. I'm still sick as a dog (no fever or cold), but don't have the usual food-poisoning symptoms. WAAAAAAHHHHH. No doctor yet either, I considered heading to the ER last night around 2am when I really felt like shit, but then decided to wait it out...

how much longer!?!?!?

[montanaskier]

+++++++++vibes+++++++++++++++

[bio-smear]

I'm relieved that this isn't about solid white albacore from a can. That would be disturbing.

[fez]

ever had any shellfish allergies?
the clams and oysters (esp raw) are far more likely cause of food poisoning than tuna. tuna is a top predator and can get high mercury levels, but filter feeders can get the really nasty shit in them.

[haydukelives]

I eat raw ahi about 3x a week and have never gotten sick. sounds more like staph toxin, any mayo involved?

[hop]

I'd check shellfish allergies first.... as stated above.

[smitchell333]

My money is on the allergic reaction or food poisoning from the shellfish.

[TBS]

Agreed on the shellfish being the likely culprit. Did your lips get numb/tingly?

If you aren't better after 24 hrs, you should think hard about seeing a doc. You aren't eliminating the poison by puking or shitting, so you don't have many other options at this point.

Good luck and +++++vibes+++++ dude. Been in your shoes and it sucks.

[iceman]

Colorado, eat beef or lamb or elk. Or potatoes or grouse or whatever. Seafood? No.

I don't give a fuck about how jet transportation has supposedly made everything the same, it has not.

Eating seafood 1000 miles from the ocean is stupid. Two more days in transit generally plus it costs them an arm and a leg, so they don't wanna toss it.

Hope you feel better, man, sorry for the rant.

If you want raw get some Kobe tartar next time.

[AsheanMT]

Having worked in restaurants for most of my working life and having worked on a fishing processing vessel I would say its THE SHELLFISH AND NOT THE TUNA.

[fez]

Eating seafood 1000 miles from the ocean is stupid. Two more days in transit generally plus it costs them an arm and a leg, so they don't wanna toss it.

Hope you feel better, man, sorry for the rant.

If you want raw get some Kobe tartar next time.

iceman != very good at reading comprehension today

i didnt know you could be in florida and be 1000 miles from the ocean.

[RootSkier]

If you want raw get some Kobe tartar next time.

I thought we were getting away from shit that was flown in.

Or are you one of the guys that buys cheese labeled "Parmesan" in big letters and then "style" below it in tiny font?

[iceman]

american Kobe equivalent.

I'd rather have something thick cooked over a hot fire myself.

You're the snobbiest Montana guy I ever knew, btw.

Oh yeah, I got a pound of Reggiano off the wheel in the fridge, does that suit your highness?

[likwid]

i didnt know you could be in florida and be 1000 miles from the ocean.

Considering the BFT and YFT schools are somewhere off the Azores right now, Florida doesn't mean shit.

Most likely shellfish, but I certainly wouldn't eat tuna this time of year unless it was from a sushi place I knew and trusted and knew where their fish was coming from.

having worked on a fishing processing vessel I would say its THE SHELLFISH AND NOT THE TUNA.

If this was true then you'd recognize the fact that there's zero fucking control over fish when it hits the fish house.

If its been 12+ hours, go to the ER.
No fucking WWMD? Just fucking go.

[RootSkier]

You're the snobbiest Montana guy I ever knew, btw.

Thanks. I am wearing a Polo dress shirt right now. And I just got a haircut today (but it was at a barber, ewwww).

Oh yeah, I got a pound of Reggiano off the wheel in the fridge, does that suit your highness?

You should send me some.

[rideit]

Colorado, eat beef or lamb or elk. Or potatoes or grouse or whatever. Seafood? No.

I don't give a fuck about how jet transportation has supposedly made everything the same, it has not.

Eating seafood 1000 miles from the ocean is stupid. Two more days in transit generally plus it costs them an arm and a leg, so they don't wanna toss it.

.

Yup, it's MUCH better 2000 feet from the ocean.
I agree, Ice, most purveyors have added financial incentive to 'push' the freshness...but where I work here in JH, where we serve, say, the Bushs, Wolfowitzs, Cheneys, Fords, Waltons, etc, I have NEVER seen fresher seafood served, even at Sushi grade. (I am speaking specifically of the outfit that I sometimes work for).
It's a holistic quality chain, JUST like the oceanic impetis of it's existence.

I have had WAY more suspicious sushi in L.A, S.F., Seattle, Miami, etc, than here.

But hey....(redundant arguments are the...you know)

[rideit]

Considering the BFT and YFT schools are somewhere off the Azores right now, Florida doesn't mean shit.

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Ding ding mc-ding-ding!

[Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo]

I eat raw ahi about 3x a week and have never gotten sick. sounds more like staph toxin, any mayo involved?

That's my guess. I had the exact same thing a few months ago from some fast food place. Sick as shit for 2 days, constant nausea but only puked a few times and never had the runs. My brother(a doctor) said it was probably food-born-staph

[L7]

I thought allegic reactions were fairly immediate. Not sure a small amount of tuna would do it but raw sushi is handled differently I've been told. The sushi is flash frozen at sea to kill any bacteria much as cooking would do. I don't know if all tuna is treated this way. Sushi grade tuna is a better bet to eat raw.

I thought a guy on here was a sushi chef maybe he or someone else could back this up or punch holes in it.

[likwid]

Giants are typically just pithed/bled/gutted/packed in an ice/salt slurry (as close as you can get to flash freezing without a factory ship).

The japs are very quick about acquiring large fish and getting them shipped off as fast as possible.

[stupendous man]

will someone please make a Mr. Pinchy avatar and stand up for the shellfish!

won't someone please think of the shell fish!

[fez]

I thought allegic reactions were fairly immediate. Not sure a small amount of tuna would do it but raw sushi is handled differently I've been told. The sushi is flash frozen at sea to kill any bacteria much as cooking would do. I don't know if all tuna is treated this way. Sushi grade tuna is a better bet to eat raw.

I thought a guy on here was a sushi chef maybe he or someone else could back this up or punch holes in it.

retired sushi chef, computer geek now.

some tuna sold as sushi grade is flash frozen at sea, it is first hit with a 'flavorless smoke' treatment to keep the tuna from turning brown when frozen. 'flavorless smoke' is a euphemism for gassing it with CO. you can recognize this tuna because it is bubblegum pink in color. not the deep ruby red of quality fresh tuna. when i ran a sushi bar, i kept some of this in the freezer for when i didnt have the quantity or quality of fresh tuna i needed.

most tuna used for sushi is not treated this way. it is noticibly lower in quality and does not taste nearly as good as fresh.

you can get good quality tuna even many miles from the ocean if you have a good fish guy. i had one of the best when i started and ran a sushi bar in bozeman. he had a supplier in hawaii who bought only from fishermen who returned to port daily. it was on the plane that day or the next. i usually had tuna no more than two days out of the water. it was expensive, but i was able to charge for it.

most other fish is always frozen, yellowtail, salmon, escolar, shiro tuna, albacore

here is a NYT article about it

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...57C0A9629C8B63

Food and Drug Administration regulations stipulate that fish to be eaten raw -- whether as sushi, sashimi, seviche, or tartare -- must be frozen first, to kill parasites. ''I would desperately hope that all the sushi we eat is frozen,'' said George Hoskin, a director of the agency's Office of Seafood. Tuna, a deep-sea fish with exceptionally clean flesh, is the only exception to the rule.

But tuna is often frozen, too, not necessarily to make it safe, but because global consumption of sushi continues to rise. Frozen fish usually costs about half as much wholesale as fresh. And some cuts, like the prized fatty toro, are not always available fresh.

i probably shouldnt have mentioned the allergy because you are right, allergic reaction should show up quickly and most often seafood allergies involve crustaceans not mollusks.

what i meant was that since mollusks are filter feeders, they tend to get contaminated with any pollution in the water (e.g. Red Tide). there is a chance that he just got a bad oyster. and i think this is a higher chance than getting sick from raw tuna.

[likwid]

The Food and Drug Administration doesn't monitor fish houses.
They can stipulate all they want.
It means fuck all.

Queue Tilapia not being Tilapia and also over 1/3 of "Swordfish" sold being Thresher Shark.

[BurnHard]

Wow thanks for all the replies guys!
I passed out last night after posting and slept til now.
Still dizzy as fuck, although not nearly as bad as yesterday... Still no vomiting or shits.
Been pounding water like water , and 5g Vitamin C every couple of hours.
I'll be heading to the doctor right away. Going to the campus health center first, will head to the ER if they recommend it.

My friends also ate the shellfish and they're all fine. No mayo. No prior allergies, and no tingling in my lips after eating the shellfish. The tuna looked real fucking fresh, I can tell fresh tuna from the bad stuff, and I only ate a fingernail-sized thin slice. The shellfish on the other hand tasted a little less fresh, although it had been cooked...

fez - cool career, sushi chef then computer geek. I'm starting off at the opposite end (computer geek now) and hopefully will one day become a worthy sushi chef. If I live through this

iceman, I agree, if I was in Colorado I'd avoid seafood - I'm in Florida for the time being, getting ready to drive back to Boulder next week if I survive classes and this food poisoning.

[iceman]

The Food and Drug Administration doesn't monitor fish houses.
They can stipulate all they want.
It means fuck all.

Queue Tilapia not being Tilapia and also over 1/3 of "Swordfish" sold being Thresher Shark.

Heh I was down on the docks in Plymouth when they were unloading a day boat and the guy held up a crate of skate wings and yelled, "hey anybody wanna buy some scallops?"

Skin 'em, stamp 'em out with a cookie cutter, 90% of people couldn't tell the difference.