"Kill Bro" Review

**teambigdave** · 12-24-2006, 08:24 AM

Finally got a chance to get to SLC and get on the 192 Big Bro's. Skied two days at Solitude over a variety of conditions. Hardpack, crud, suncrust, light pow, etc.

me = 6' 190lbs, skier for 24 years, moderately OK
comparable skis owned = Sanouk, 1st gen Big Daddy, FFL's
other giver skis = 188 stiffs, S.S. Pro's, FGS's, dp 138(someday they'll arrive

)

skis mounted w/916 7mm back from where Splat told me too(for graphic reasons)

Overall impression =

This ski friggin rips!! I was shocked at how well it skied basically everything I came across. It carves WAY better than other big skis I've been on and is much smoother on hard snow than the Big Daddy was. It loves big open fast turns but is totally manageable it tight spots/trees. I had no problem changing direction when needed and never felt like I had a 114mm waisted ski on my feet. In variable crud/pow it just powers through and lets you stay centered and smooth. REALLY impressed with how versatile it is. It skis pow great but is definitely not as pow orientated as the Sanouk is. I'm not a huckasaurus by any means but for 10-15' drops it's stiff enough to stand my backseat ass up and ski away smooth. Basically I didn't really find anything I didn't like . Oh yeah, the bases are either bulletproof or Solitude has kind rocks. Rock takeoff to rock landing did surprisingly little harm.

Basically I'm going to ski them everyday I'm in Utah/Jackson and could see them as they everyday ski of choice for an awful lot of people.

PMGEAR =

**mntlion** · 12-24-2006, 10:38 AM

114 waist, TIP = ??? tail = ??? camber = ????

**pechelman** · 12-24-2006, 10:48 AM

basically its a 179bro widened 15mm + 13cm in length
so 142ish - 114 - 130something ish
radius is around 36m Id guess without measuring the cad files

camber i have no idea, as thats a result of the manf process

edit: i meant 179 not 188

**splat** · 12-24-2006, 12:59 PM

We can thank pechelman for enlarging the 179 to 192. That was what I asked him to do and he pulled it off really sweet - transpose the sweetass qualities of the 179 to a big ski. I was going to take tomorrow off (first day off in 140 days), but I had no skis to ski. Just dropped some 192s off for grinding, so it looks like its my new baby tomorrow. Glad you're diggin them, Dave.

**weibo** · 12-24-2006, 01:28 PM

Dave,

I think 141-114-130. That's what I have written down but things may have changed on the final product.

**Tyrone Shoelaces** · 12-24-2006, 01:47 PM

143-114-132 I believe.

**pechelman** · 12-24-2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by pechelman

so 142ish - 114 - 130something ish

Originally Posted by weibo

Dave,

I think 141-114-130. That's what I have written down but things may have changed on the final product.

like I said, the model shows that its
142.83 - 114 - 131.53 and a radius around 35.3m
I doubt the production protos were too far off.

thanks for the kind words Pat.

**splat** · 12-24-2006, 01:59 PM

You were born to design skis, Phil.
All that other engineering stuff was just prep....

**Core Shot** · 12-24-2006, 02:09 PM

this thread is useless without pictures.
What is the big Bro graphics plan?

Also, what is the production run and current lead time??

**splat** · 12-24-2006, 02:16 PM

We've been putting 188 topsheets on them. We're now doing clear topsheets with graphics on the core. But we only made 15 pair, all of which have been spoken for. We were waiting to see how they performed and it's basically unanimous - they're off the fukkin hizzah.

I'm going to make cores for 25 more pair to press after everyone's orders standing are filled. But it looks like we'll be doing a shitload of them over the summer for next year.

edit: Dave did his own graphic on a pair of the protos we made in early October:

**pechelman** · 12-24-2006, 02:17 PM

from a previous thread

**dookeyXXX** · 12-24-2006, 04:54 PM

i'm too lazy to search for that other Bro thread about the new fatties.

what sizes are they coming out in again? 192 and...?

**SafteySquad** · 12-24-2006, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by dookey67

i'm too lazy to search for that other Bro thread about the new fatties.

what sizes are they coming out in again? 192 and...?

179

.....

**dookeyXXX** · 12-24-2006, 05:00 PM

gracias!

I knew they were making 'em shorter for us panty waists!

**mountain_man** · 12-25-2006, 06:45 AM

Great review Big Dave. Well done splat i think you've earned your day off (just one tho)

**marshalolson** · 12-25-2006, 09:27 AM

FYI - dave's graphics own

**squirrelmurphy** · 12-25-2006, 10:07 AM

heh the 188s look like little twigs next to the kill bros

and i second marsh, the kill bro graphic is too sick

**Dromond** · 12-25-2006, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by marshalolson

FYI - dave's graphics own

Seriously. You should just do the production one like that!

**warthog** · 12-26-2006, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Dromond

Seriously. You should just do the production one like that!

You should see his "Manziere" graphics on the 188 Bro.

**Altaholic** · 12-27-2006, 12:59 AM

The "Kill Bro" graphics are pimp!!!!!!!!

**teambigdave** · 12-27-2006, 07:57 AM

If anybody is interested in taking them for a ride, I'm leaving for SLC today and will be in SLC/Jackson for the next couple of weeks. If you have a 327ish bootsole and see me(and have something I can click into), they're all yours for a bit.

They do look pretty sweet in person BTW

(pats self on back)