Avalung. To wear or not to wear.

[stihletto]

Been discussed before. Thought it would be interesting to see how many people on this forum wear em or don't.

[mitch_cumstein]

Been discussed before. Thought it would be interesting to see how many people on this forum wear em or don't.

I'd say just get someone to follow you around and take lots of pictures.

[Wibby]

i wear mine all the time as its built into my backpack.

[couloirman]

I think a more interesting question may be who, among those who wear them, actually have them in their mouth when skiing potential avy terrain, seeing as the chances of getting it into your mouth once already sliding is slim to none.(and come on, why do they include the nose plug? they know no one wears it...)

EDIT: Actually, you know what, I already know the answer to my question is going to be almost none.

[FrontRangeDrummer]

I just modified mine into my pack so it is easier to deal with.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...d.php?t=105621

I haven't skied with the hose in my mouth. I also haven't skied in very many spots where I expected snow to slide...

[couloirman]

I also haven't skied in very many spots where I expected snow to slide...

So, I also have not skied with it in my mouth, and I am not trying to rag on you at all, but this statement I don't really like. Do you think that most people who die in avy's expect the snow to slide? I highly doubt it because anyone who is experienced enough to be making decisions out there, and expects the snow to slide would under almost all normal circumstances NOT ski the slope. I guess were getting a little off topic from the OP's topic but I just had to add that.

[stihletto]

i guess i should have just had two options in the poll, because the "will buy one" is going to be confusing.

[KungFu Eddie]

I'm getting one plummed via a traceotomy into my neck so I don't have to worry about getting it in, in time. The whole argument about them being difficult to use in an emergency seems a bit stupid to me. Even a one in a hundred chance of getting the tube in your mouth beats nothing at all. Its like saying "putting a condom on in the heat of the moment is difficult so i'll just get aids instead".

To cut a long story short i'm buying an anarchist.

[Tectonically_Neglected]

I think a more interesting question may be who, among those who wear them, actually have them in their mouth when skiing potential avy terrain, seeing as the chances of getting it into your mouth once already sliding is slim to none

You state this as a fact... I call BS.

There are numerous circumstances where you have sufficient time to plug in the mouth piece. Avies are fast mofos but they don't always take you by surprise... (example: this personal account on ttips).

It is another discussion if you can keep the mouthpiece in your mouth during the ride...

[TDJ]

Ski with a covert avalung backpack. I take out the hose if i'm not feeling 100% secure.

[gaijin]

why the fuck wouldn't someone use one if they had access to it? This thread sucks ass and deserves to be called out.

Oh... and avi-savvy riders ski dangerous slopes all the time. They dig a pit, see a hoar layer, then cut it- expecting it to slide... and it doesn't. THAT SUCKS! there is nothing worse than standing above a line that you know should rip but didn't in your cut. That whole argument about avi-savvy people getting caught in a slide that they didn't anticipate is crap. If there is one thing they didn't anticipate, it was buying and using the appropriate tools.

Let's get back to rule #1 from your avi science class- ALL SLOPES SLIDE... at some point. The key is to either cause that slide, or not be there when it happens by itself. Either way, use every tool available to you. And- stop taking polls about whether or not one should or shouldn't use any available tools.

it's like speaking to a bunch of tools. you guys are fricking 16 and deserve to be slapped in the face for thinking there's any other way other than using every tool available to you. Go save your money elsewhere.

[Tectonically_Neglected]

why the fuck wouldn't someone use one if they had access to it? This thread sucks ass and deserves to be called out.

Oh... and avi-savvy riders ski dangerous slopes all the time. They dig a pit, see a hoar layer, then cut it- expecting it to slide... and it doesn't. THAT SUCKS! there is nothing worse than standing above a line that you know should rip but didn't in your cut. That whole argument about avi-savvy people getting caught in a slide that they didn't anticipate is crap. If there is one thing they didn't anticipate, it was buying and using the appropriate tools.

Let's get back to rule #1 from your avi science class- ALL SLOPES SLIDE... at some point. The key is to either cause that slide, or not be there when it happens by itself. Either way, use every tool available to you. And- stop taking polls about whether or not one should or shouldn't use any available tools.

it's like speaking to a bunch of tools. you guys are fricking 16 and deserve to be slapped in the face for thinking there's any other way other than using every tool available to you. Go save your money elsewhere.

Take a freakin chill pill dude.

[neck beard]

why the fuck wouldn't someone use one if they had access to it? This thread sucks ass and deserves to be called out.

Oh... and avi-savvy riders ski dangerous slopes all the time. They dig a pit, see a hoar layer, then cut it- expecting it to slide... and it doesn't. THAT SUCKS! there is nothing worse than standing above a line that you know should rip but didn't in your cut. That whole argument about avi-savvy people getting caught in a slide that they didn't anticipate is crap. If there is one thing they didn't anticipate, it was buying and using the appropriate tools.

Let's get back to rule #1 from your avi science class- ALL SLOPES SLIDE... at some point. The key is to either cause that slide, or not be there when it happens by itself. Either way, use every tool available to you. And- stop taking polls about whether or not one should or shouldn't use any available tools.

it's like speaking to a bunch of tools. you guys are fricking 16 and deserve to be slapped in the face for thinking there's any other way other than using every tool available to you. Go save your money elsewhere.

That was all over the place like a mad woman's shit.

[gaijin]

that's because I'm drunk. What... you read these forums sober?

[Bunion 2020]

tools.

Let's get back to rule #1 from your avi science class- ALL SLOPES SLIDE... at some point.

Really? Seems I missed that rule.

Or that rule isn't really a rule at all and instead is someone making up their own rules.

[gaijin]

Really? Seems I missed that rule.

Or that rule isn't really a rule at all and instead is someone making up their own rules.

really?

you haven't grasped that yet? It's called gravity. Snow's always moving, dude. you can fuck me off all you want- gravity works.

[0BernhardFranz]

Don´t EVER go into terrain wher you could need that.If you do keep it in your mouth.

[gaijin]

Don´t EVER go into terrain wher you could need that.If you do keep it in your mouth.

Sarcasm is sweet on a forum. It's so... obscure.

Ironically, those of us who deal with dangerous terrain don't ask questions about when gear is important or not. It's pretty fricking blatant. And if you're one of them on the outside, asking questions or doubting the system, it's quite blatant.

So... WTF? Why is this thread even here? Either you get it, or you're one of them still arguing why us drunk fucks don't need it.

Nonetheless, we have a tool chest that you kids deem irrelevant. And- when we're drunk, we have fun telling you to STFU. Why? because kids need discipline.

[Sparky]

I wanted to get the Anarchist with built in Avalung, but I am not certain that I could get the mouthpiece in my gob quick enough and keep it there in a slide. The pipe looks a bit weak on the Avalung; corrugated thin plastic. I have been hearing a lot lately that Airbags are much more effective at saving life ( http://www.trickhouse.com/time-is-life/ does anyone know if this film is worth getting?). I shall probably save up and get both Airbag and Avalung, What is the best airbag and is there one that will work with an Avalung Anarchist or Covert pack?

[~mikey b]

I've been skiing with mine in my mouth here and there. Takes some getting used to, as does snowmobiling with it in, especially under a full-face helmet.

[Trackhead]

I think a more interesting question may be who, among those who wear them, actually have them in their mouth when skiing potential avy terrain, .

I do. But if I'm putting that thing in my mouth, I also ask myself why I'm skiing where I am.

[DoubleDuff]

I wanted to get the Anarchist with built in Avalung, but I am not certain that I could get the mouthpiece in my gob quick enough and keep it there in a slide. The pipe looks a bit weak on the Avalung; corrugated thin plastic. I have been hearing a lot lately that Airbags are much more effective at saving life ( http://www.trickhouse.com/time-is-life/ does anyone know if this film is worth getting?). I shall probably save up and get both Airbag and Avalung, What is the best airbag and is there one that will work with an Avalung Anarchist or Covert pack?

From what I heard in my last avy course, the statistics on the airbag packs are pretty amazing. Something about the increased volume keeping riders on top of the slide. Once the airbag packs become more widely available and more affordable over here, I would like to pick one up. I am assuming that a lot of volume in the pack is lost with either the avalung or the airbags.
Currently I try to use my knowledge from my avy courses to make the right decisions and travel with folks who are solid with their rescue equipment. I wonder if I would take more chances with either the avalung or the airbags.

[TeleHoar]

Don´t EVER go into terrain wher you could need that.If you do keep it in your mouth.

^^^This is good advice for the single's bars too.




I just got the covert for this season and worn it in the BC twice now, I pull the snorkel out but don't yet keep in my teeth. I guess I should practice that.

I will be wearing it inbounds probably alot, for several reasons:

• Recent avy in Mammoth, for example, keeps me thinking that nothing's really "safe".
• Tree wells
• I tend to go out the gates alot and always bring all my gear. So the pack will be with me.
• Looks so "core" as I hang out in the bar.
• May have to follow rontele into a bathroom sometime.
• Works as an elk call to attract cougars.

[trainnvain]

Riding up the lift at Blackcomb, checking all my shit in the pack.Pull out the hose/mouthpiece to inspect it.
Guy two seats over on the lift "my buddy puts margaritas in his, I gotta get me one of those!" hahaha!

[PNWbrit]

I do. But if I'm putting that thing in my mouth, I also ask myself why I'm skiing where I am.

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