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03-06-2024, 01:36 PM #1Registered User
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San Juans heli ski slide - pov footage
Sounds of music slide path near the Opus hut
Found this video interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaxShyCAq18
Friends who were up on battleship took a photo of the aftermath.
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03-06-2024, 01:42 PM #2
Thanks for posting that. Until you see that kind of POV most folks don't understand how weird it is when you are caught on a slab.
I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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03-06-2024, 02:26 PM #3
that's nuts
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03-06-2024, 02:28 PM #4
Thanks for posting. Lots of carnage and death in that couple/few square miles in the past decade and beyond. If it's the path, I'm thinking that is, in 2019 after the big winter the slide went across the valley below and swirled up the other side and took out thousands of trees. (Battleship is behind the ridge).
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03-06-2024, 03:17 PM #5
It took 15 seconds for him to pull the airbag for anyone who is counting.
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03-06-2024, 04:21 PM #6
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03-06-2024, 05:27 PM #8Registered User
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03-06-2024, 05:35 PM #9I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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03-06-2024, 05:42 PM #10
I have no idea what the law is. The way I understand it, just from having good friends in the game, is that their is gentlemen's agreement that ski areas/heli ops etc. report privately.
I think it is BS for my own personal reasons.
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03-06-2024, 05:46 PM #11
So what you have now is a YouTube video of a customer burial being discussed on a skiing message board with a HeliTrax logo on the guides jacket for which there is no pubic CAIC observation.
I'd think that would be a PR nightmare. You'd think they would want to control the narrative before someone like Unofficial gets a hold of it.
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03-06-2024, 05:50 PM #12
Yes - and Telluride Helitrax specifically (their logo is on the guide's jacket) does often support SAR efforts and CAIC avalanche investigation/hazard mitigation efforts in this area. Of course getting your clients slid is bad for busine$$ so of course they want to keep that shit on the DL.
IMO, CAIC should still put public observations up on anything that they receive from guided outfits or ski areas though, like they did from this other guided incident that buried two clients less than a week prior. In this case it was posted by a forecaster and doesn't contain any info that could easily identify the guide or outfit which seems like a fair compromise.
https://avalanche.state.co.us/observ...e-822aa4b9f5fc
https://classic.avalanche.state.co.u...=865&accfm=inv
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03-06-2024, 05:52 PM #13Registered User
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Just found this. Thanks for answers above.
Observation Summary:
17th skier on the slope. Guide traversed as the 16th skier, across the slope and waited for their first guest. The 17th skier triggered and collapsed the slope, triggering the slide propagating above the skier. The skier was never under the snow. The guide traveled along the slide and told the skier to deploy their airbag. They did. The bag was never utilized or needed for flotation. The skier rode nearly 1200 linear feet. No gear was lost. No injuries. No burials. No other involvements.This slide or collapse, either remotely or sympathetically, triggered a second slide. The first triggered slide on a SW aspect at 12,600'. This we classified as R2-D2. 550' wide 900' vert. The second remote slide was east aspect, 800' wide, 900' vert.
Route Description:
Heli-ski operations in the area known locally as The Sound of Music
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03-06-2024, 08:28 PM #14
I guess it was his best day ever. He walked away unscathed.
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03-06-2024, 08:48 PM #15
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03-06-2024, 10:21 PM #16
Expert skiers are not the primary clientele of most heli and cat ops. People with $$$ are.
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03-06-2024, 10:52 PM #17
There was a guided close call published today.
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03-07-2024, 12:13 AM #18
I wanted to post this vid earlier. The way the slab moving down looked like a wave coming up was surreal.
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03-07-2024, 08:24 AM #19
That was the slab flowing up and over the stock wall and yes, it was a great demonstration of flowing solids acting as a liquid mass. All in all that was a great video to use to show people what getting caught looks like up close and personal.
I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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03-07-2024, 08:32 AM #20
I took a short ride like that on a surprisingly low angle slope. It seemed to happen in slow motion. It was a 50cm hard wind slab over large surface hoar. I probably moved 50’ down slope and rode on top like that.
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03-07-2024, 08:42 AM #21Registered User
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There have been quite a few guided close calls in the North San Juans this year. More than I can recall in the previous few years combinded.
A year with a touchy snowpack everywhere is compounded down here. Plus the pressure to put clients into terrain that has less tracks will always win out
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03-07-2024, 09:02 AM #22Registered User
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It really is a scarily fascinating video. I am seeing some comments saying the dude a) should have tried to ski out of it b) should have tried to get his skis off once in it c) should not have even been out there. If put in the same situation, I would hope my flight response would kick in immediately to attempt option a, but I don't know and hope to not find out.
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03-07-2024, 09:10 AM #23
You’d be surprised how quickly you get pulled off your feet before you register what’s happening.
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03-07-2024, 09:29 AM #24
That was a pretty wild video of the slab starting. I like to think I also would have tried to haul ass out of there and hopefully pulled my trigger immediately.
Regarding the obs being pulled/marked private, I agree that it sucks but understand why. Hopefully the video stays up.
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03-07-2024, 10:03 AM #25Hey
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More guide shenanigans.
https://classic.avalanche.state.co.us/caic/acc/acc_report.php?acc_id=865&accfm=inv
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